. >> camp is saying in an environment where some of the folks are honest, they want to make up revenue, you have to find it. we are cutting defense spending. we were talking about infrastructure, potholes, state funding. >> you have to make sacrifices. >> in the previous segment. the people who are serious want to pick up the amendment. if there's any room to maneuver or wiggle, i don't think the way they've approached the tax code gives me a lot of real faith. capital gains is an important area. by the way, to abby's point, you want to know a big idea, hold up or down votes on the floor. the speaker can put each one of these out. what i think happens here is similar to what happens on immigration. there's some piecemeal conversations but you can't actually get a vote on what i think are the most important parts. the capital gains thing, i'll end here, it's a problem because today's wealthy americans make more money through stock dividends than were before in history. >> right. >> our tax code has not caught up with that. you were alluding to that. if we don't deal with that, and i thi